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Read the Catechism in a Year

Read the Catechism: Day 58

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If you would like to read the readings for this day, please follow the link below:
Read paragraphs 385-390 on the Catholic Cross Reference

By Matthew Warner - Dec 7, 2012 at 8:29 am

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Kaitlin Rawley: December 7 at 8:36 am.

Sorry for the late start today everyone! We ran into a little hiccup but all is well now :) Have a blessed Advent

- Kait
Flocknote Happiness Engineer

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Ging Smith: December 7 at 8:57 am.

I was wondering why I did not have the reading when I opened my inbox today :-) Thanks, Kaitlin!

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Diane Jellison: December 7 at 10:28 am.

Thanks Kaitlin!

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Suzi Leggett: December 7 at 10:38 am.

Thank you Kaitlin <3

God is infinitely good and all his works are good.

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Alicia Heisler: December 7 at 10:54 am.

387 Only in the knowledge of God's plan for man can we grasp that sin is an ABUSE of the freedom that God gives to created persons so that they are capable of loving him and loving one another.

Wow...that certainly gives a different perspective of sin, especially in a society where everything is "relative"

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Michael Payne: December 7 at 11:25 am.

Agree with Alicia. Paragraph 387 is incredibly powerful. It hits at the heart of the issue with society today: (1) God gives us total freedom, so much so that some may not believe in Him, (2) along with that freedom, we must exercise responsibility, (3) not to do so leads to sin, but to act responsibly leads to, (4) loving Him and loving one another - the two great commandments given to us by Jesus. Thank you! Have a fantastic day, all!

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 11:26 am.

thanks Kaitlin.

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Barbara M Singer: December 7 at 11:52 am.

Thanks so much, Kaitlin! I thought it might be something like you described.

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Jan Farmer: December 7 at 12:08 pm.

I've been doing this for almost 2 months now. This is something I've wanted to do for a while now but tackling the 'whole thing' at one time. It just seemed like too much.

This little-bite-every-day idea inspired me to look up the Major Councils of the Catholic Church on-line, save them to my computer (I converted them to word processing texts) and working backwards, starting with Vatican II I going to read them all; a little every day.

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Jorge Carranza: December 7 at 12:26 pm.

Sin is an abuse of freedom, but the jewish understanding of sin is different.

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 7 at 12:39 pm.

Thanks, our Happiness Engineer, Kaitlin who provides great happiness to all of us ensuring the system works.

"I sought whence evil comes and there was no solution". All of us had asked this same or similar questions as St Augustine. Today's reading is like the light that shines onto the path of knowledge of sufferings and salvation. In original sin which is an act of grave disobedience by our first parents, God's graces was forfeited. In full obedience by the second Adam and second Eve, God's grace was recovered fully for us. Thank you very much our Lord Jesus Christ and dear Blessed Mother. Amen.

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 7 at 1:08 pm.

@ Jorge : Judaism does not believe that Jesus Christ is the promised Messiah or God. Our teaching of original sin is derived from our belief that our Lord Jesus Christ is the Messiah. And our Protestant brothers and sisters though also believing in original sin, but defines iit differently from us :

"Both sides agree that we are born with both a lack of righteousness and a whole passle of sinful inclinations, they simply label these differently. Protestants lump them both together under the term "original sin," while Catholics call the lack of guilt original sin itself, and the sinful inclinations they call the stain of original sin."

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Paulo Sgarbi: December 7 at 1:10 pm.

I would like to share an excerpt from one of Father James Schall essays, "The Mind That is Catholic" on this very topic:

"Things work out according to our nature. We are free in our wills. The punishment for our sins, for the wrong use of our wills, is not so much external pain inflicted by someone else, God, say, or some alien power. Rather, it is the internal awareness that ultimately we get what we choose. And when what we choose is not according to what we are, not according to the order of things, we eventually find that we do not like what we choose. We do not really want it. What we are is not best explained to us by what we think we are or by what we choose to make ourselves to be, presupposing only ourselves. (…) The fact that we are sinners is no comfort, of course. But it also serves to remind us of the purpose of the Incarnation in the first place, namely, to redeem us, to invite us to repent. If we had no need of redemption, the work and events of the Incarnation and the drama of Christ's life and death, as we understand them, would have been unnecessary.

The Catholic mind maintains that, in no area of life, personal, political, or religious, are we immune from the results of the Fall or the hope of the Redemption. A secular mind holds that it has no need to account for anything beyond itself and no necessity to account for itself to any standard higher than any it proposes to itself."

During this Advent season, I pray that we may fully recognize the reality of sin and of the last things - Death, Judgement, Heaven and Hell. Please also pray for me, as I am a sinner and very much in need of your spiritual support.

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Bob Weil: December 7 at 1:37 pm.

"Only in the knowledge of God's plan for man can we grasp that sin is an abuse of the freedom that God gives to created persons so that they are capable of loving him and loving one another." I hesitate to speak as I know not very much. But this is a powerful thought. The joy we experience in loving and being loved is a choice and the price we pay for this joy is that we can suffer the pain and lack of joy because we also can choose sin. Sin can happen because we can choose it. Without a choice, there is no love.

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Mark Squires: December 7 at 2:22 pm.

Our stain of original sin has forever inclined us to sin and wrongly offend God who sent His son to redeem us. However, should we commit grave sin and not confess our sin because of our selfish private reasons, surely we will go to Hell. This is the Year of Faith. Pope Benedict has offered a Plenary Indulgence provided we make a good confession and receive communion. What a wonderful way to celebrate and welcome Jesus this Christmas than by being in a state of grace with your sins absolved and forgiven..... Hmmm! I do need to confess.

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wanda gresko: December 7 at 2:28 pm.

I'm beginning to have some problem understanding statements made about "protestants" beliefs. There are thousands of "protestant churches" out there and with a multitudes of beliefs. We as Catholics have enough problems understanding our own churches beliefs, should we not confuse them with what some protestants believe? I am a convert from Lutheranism since 1995, but married to a cradle Catholic for 43 years now. My 3 sons raised as Catholics and the oldest is a priest. I study the Catholic faith but I know the Lutheran churches stand. Like I said tooooo many protestant churches out there to understand what they say. I'm just saying....

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Ann Latz: December 7 at 2:38 pm.

Thanks to Kaitlin, the Happiness Engineer. I felt lost this morning when there was no posting. It made me realize how much I appreciate and depend upon the readings and the comments.

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tom mckinney: December 7 at 4:01 pm.

I like the "superabundance of grace." It gives me hope. I must call on this superabundance in frequeting the sacraments.

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Robert Parisien: December 7 at 4:11 pm.

A question to our experts and anyone who may know about ancestral curses.
I have a book of prayers where a special prayer is about our ancestors and their sins which curses us.
What are your thoughts on our ancestors and I find it hard to believe that my great grand fathers sins are cursing me? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for your time and may the Lord almighty bless you all. Robert P

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Patricia Howai: December 7 at 4:24 pm.

Kaitlin, thank you so much. @Tom I like the 'superabundance of grace' too, and I sure need it.

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Abril Novoa: December 7 at 4:48 pm.

Does anyone know of a similar tool in Spanish? If not the actual Catechism, maybe some introductory texts for catechisis?? Thanks, and happy Advent!

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 7 at 5:21 pm.

@ wanda : Sometimes to understand our own faith better we need to know what others are teaching too, so as not to wrongly interpret our own teaching. We believe in original sin and the stain of original sin, unlike Protestants. The interpretation of Protestant doctrine is an excerpt from EWTN Global Catholic Television Network. The writer would be referring to the mainstream denominational Protestant faiths as, yes, there are thousands of Protestant groups. The last time I read was 60,000!

Some of our Flocknote brothers and sisters use EWTN this wonderful site too. You may wish to visit it at :

www.ewtn.com

God Bless

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Roberto Artadi: December 7 at 5:31 pm.

When we speak of original sin, we blame our first parents, Adam and Eve, believing that it was their exercise of their free will which resulted in their commission of the original sin, their disobedience of the order of God for them not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I agree that Adam and Eve committed the sin with their exercise of their free will, to eat that forbiden fruit. But what caused them to eat it? What made that fruit so desirable, so tempting, so "good" to them? We must remember that evil existed even at that time of our first parents. Sin was committed earlier by another creature of God before man. The same sin committed by Adam and Eve was committed by the fallen angels. They wanted to be equal to God, so they committed sin against God. They tempted and mislead our first parents, to desire the same power which they desired and for which they were punished by God, and Adam and Eve succumbed to their temptation. We must be aware that, while there are Angels of God who help and protect us, there are also the fallen angels, the devils, who seek our fall, so that we join them in their misery.

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Regina Barzyk: December 7 at 5:49 pm.

Robert Parisien: December 7 at 5:11 pm.

Yes indeed Robert there is such sins as ancestral sins. In spirit Daily I believe there was an article not long ago about it.

I have a book but not at my side which is called: Healing the Family tree. It relates to this also.

I remember reading and please do not anyone be shocked, reading that ancesterial sins spill over to future generations up to 4th and 5th.
Actually this very part of it is even quoted in the Bible. Feuds from ancestors can go onto generations and people do not even know why this happen.

Many people do not like to touch this subject so you wont find much help in this area.
I just happen to have studied it and had support into the field.

We can continue later.
Please read your prayer book about ancestors and care for them in a loving way.....

It forgives

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Regina Barzyk: December 7 at 6:08 pm.

here is the link on sins of ancestors

http://www.spiritdaily.net/familyhealingoccult.htm

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 6:35 pm.

Joseph, it appears that the doctrine of original sin was thought of by and during St. Augustine. Am I correct?

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 6:42 pm.

Robert P. I believe that somewhere in the Old Testament, it says that the consequences of our sins go down to generations after us. That is why there is a prayer for the healing of the family tree so that ailments from your forefathers are not inherited by you. We have a healing priest in the Philippines, who used to offer a Healing Mass for the healing of family trees every week, when he was still alive. I do believe in this, which is why I also offer a chaplet in atonement for the sins of my parents, grandparents and great grandparents and ancestors.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 6:50 pm.

Bob Well, yes, God gave us free will so that we would be capable of loving. But I think more than that, free will, I believe is closely linked to our emotions. So that without free will, we would not only be unable to love, but we would also be unable to experience true joy and happiness. But the choice is ours. We can choose love, peace, joy and contentment but we can also choose misery, bitterness, and hate.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 6:59 pm.

When we choose to follow the teachings of Christ, we find peace, contentment, joy and love. When we choose to disobey them, we find discontentment, greed, bitterness, troubled mind and hatred. And why is that? Because Jesus is God and so He knows what is best for man. Which is why He came down on earth to teach us what is best for us.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 7:17 pm.

Robert P., In the same manner, I also believe that the consequences of the good things we do are also handed down through several generations after. Such that the seeds of the sacrifices and labor that we do at times do not yield fruits during our lifetime but during the lifetime of our children and grandchildren.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 7:31 pm.

thanks Regina for the link on the healing of the family tree. I believe I have read that book. However there is a scriptural basis for this belief. Do you know the scripture passage?

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Christian Anyanwu: December 7 at 7:37 pm.

Today God have interven in my quest for killing of xtians partcularly the Igbo tribe in Nigeria west Africa. Let God"s grace see the xtians through Amen

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 7 at 8:24 pm.

@ Robert P, Regina & Roberto T : The most important thing to remember is that at Baptism, God forgives ALL our sins, including original sin, committed before Baptism. We come out a New person, in sanctifying grace.

As Christ told Nicodemus, "And there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night, and said to him: Rabbi, we know that thou art come a teacher from God; for no man can do these signs which thou dost, unless God be with him. Jesus answered, and said to him: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith to him: How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born again? Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

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Roberto Artadi: December 7 at 8:26 pm.

Chhistsian - Who are the xtians? Are they one of the tirbes in Nigeria? Who are killing them?

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 8:39 pm.

that is correct, Joseph. The sins are forgiven in Baptism and even during Confession, but the consequences or shall we say, retribution, remains. Which is why there is purgatory? Unless we have atoned for them in our earthly life by means of prayers, sacrifices and good works. I think if they made a survey, they will find a high co-relationship between children of divorced parents and ending in broken marriages or children of unfaithful husbands and wives who end up also unfaithful Hence, we should be aware of the vices of our parents and grandparents in order to pray and guard ourselves from the same vices.

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John W: December 7 at 8:50 pm.

Your sins are forgiven when you go to confession. Period!

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Janice K: December 7 at 8:52 pm.

Deuteronomy 5:9 is probably the most familiar:
"You shall not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me."

Exodus 20:5
"New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,"

There are several others. Google The sins of the father can be to the 4th and 5th generation. And several will come up.

When we sin it affects everyone else especially our families. After the fall Cain killed Abel. This would not have happened if Adam and Eve would not have sinned.
A priest once gave me an example of how sin affects others. He described a huge chandelier all lite up. Every time someone sinned a light would dim and eventually the each light would be put out after enough sins were committed until all the lights were out and it was totally dark. Because it was pitch dark God could not be see. So each time we sin dims the light of Christ in us until it is dark and so it places others in the dark also.
Lord through your many graces help us to recognize our sins and to confess them so that Your light will shine in us and upon other so that one day we will be in paradise with you. Amen.

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Janice K: December 7 at 8:54 pm.

Dear Jesus, help me to spread Thy fragrance everywhere I go Flood my soul with Thy spirit and love. Penetrate and possess my whole being so utterly that all my life may only be a radiance of Thine. Mother Teresa's of Calcutta prayer, by Cardinal Newman

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Pamela Bloink: December 7 at 9:00 pm.

@Roberto T. I'm having trouble with your comments on divorce. I'm divorced. I didn't plan it I made a vow and was standing by my husband in his mental illness. When he quit taking his medicine, stopped counseling, was verbally abusive, lost all our money in the stock market, lost our house I still stayed and prayed for him everyday. When he became physically abusive that's where I had to draw the line and leave him especially when our daughter witnessed this. I couldn't pray him better if he didn't want to get better. To this day he still denies that he hit me. I believe God wanted me out of the marriage. I don't think my child or her children should suffer because of this.

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Pamela Bloink: December 7 at 9:08 pm.

Hey Scott what's up? I missed your prayers and wisdom today.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 9:32 pm.

Hi Pamela First of all, I think you did the right thing. That is what I had advised one of my staff before, who was in the same situation.
But the sin of their father (your husband) may affect the children. It is not something that is inevitable. It can be stopped by prayers.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 7 at 9:33 pm.

thanks Janice.

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Julaine McMillan: December 7 at 9:45 pm.

Praise God and thanks to Kaitlin our Happiness Engineer.

Christian: Are xtians Christians? Please tell us what is happening.

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 7 at 10:18 pm.

@ Roberto T : Origin sin was not first written by St Augustine. It started from the second century ...

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 7 at 10:48 pm.

Hi Roberto T, though the Magisterium has not come out with a position on this, I am inclined towards no linkage between our ancestor's sins and our own salvation. Fr Peter Joseph's writing (linkage below) makes it quite clear :
http://www.ad2000.com.au/articles/2003/feb2003p12_1239.html

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art munarriz: December 7 at 10:54 pm.

God's blessings to all.

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 8 at 2:01 am.

@ Pamela : Please do not be unduly worried. If your children lead a life close to God, they have nothing to fear. For as God told through Prophet Ezekiel, "The soul that sinneth, the same shall die: the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and the father shall not bear the iniquity of the son: the justice of the just shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

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art munarriz: December 8 at 3:12 am.

Pamela B. - You should have had a legal separation. Divorce is not allowed.

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art munarriz: December 8 at 3:20 am.

Jorge Carranza - What is the Jewish understanding of sin? Didn't know they had a different interpretation and I would be interested to know. Thanks.

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Susan T: December 8 at 5:16 am.

Thank you for your clarification on the sins of ancestors. So many are confused on this. I hope everyone gets a chance to read your post on this. All one has to do is look around to see that people improve their lives despite what their family has done. That's what we're supposed to do.

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Sue Knaack: December 8 at 8:17 am.

Pamela, the love you feel for God and his love in return will always be with you. You saved yourself and your children--divorce is just a word! This world is sooooo bad now with the ACLU against all things Christian and whatever now goes that WE make Sodom and Gomorrah(sp) look like nothing! Pray for us Lord, for we have sinned!!

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Roberto Artadi: December 8 at 8:36 am.

Pamela - For Catholics, divorce does not cut the tie of marriage. In the eyes of God, you are still married. However, you are not obliged to return to an abusive husband who makes life hell on earth for you. However, you cannot remarry or have sexual relations with another man because you are still married.

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Julaine McMillan: December 8 at 8:58 am.

Art: It sounds like Pamela B's marriage died. Marriage vows state "Until death do we part" and the Catholic Church recognizes divorce when there is the death of a marriage. The church grants annulments through marriage tribunals. It is a process guided with the aide of the Holy Spirit.

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Pamela Bloink: December 8 at 9:17 am.

A friend once told me I should get an annulment. I didn't want to at the time but now I think I should. My marriage just didn't die it was based on a lie. After my husband was diagnosed with schizophrenia he told me he had been hearing voices for years and never told me because he was afraid I would leave him. As I said before I stayed when others thought I should leave him when kept stopping treatment. It was the physical violence that made me file for divorce. Thank you all for thoughts, prayers and support. I really do appreciate it!

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Julaine McMillan: December 8 at 9:41 am.

An annulment is not necessary unless a person has intentions to remarry. Marriage after divorce without annulment is adultery because in the eyes of God and the church a person is still married. A person in the state of grace after divorce can still receive the sacraments.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 8 at 10:47 am.

Hi, Joseph. I also believe that a man is responsible for his own salvation and cannot blame his ancestors nor anybody for that matter for whatever sins he has committed.

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Fr. Donald F.: December 8 at 12:54 pm.

Wow! lots of discussion today ! Lord may the covering of your precious blood be on all who submitted their blogs today. We corporately raise the shield of faith(Ephesians 6) so that the fiery darts directed at us because of unredeemed original sin , will not take hold in us. Fill us with compassionate words one to another Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us. Amen

Thank you Janice and Joseph for the Biblical quotes related to Generational Sin.The most fundamental Scripture quotes for this discussion are in the two versions of the Ten Commandments. Not only the consequences of sin being passed on to third and fourth generations but the blessing of thousands of generations is passed on to those who Love God and follow his commandments.
The topic today has been on Original Sin and the inclination to sin that is our lot as humans. The very Sacrament of Baptism in which we proclaim the cleansing of original sin but also of new birth .....this sacrament exists because the sins of the fathers would continue ad nauseum in generations without a person like Nicodemus or families saying ...this sin will go no further in our family. From this day forward we consecrate our lives in service of Jesus and His Kingdom as prophets , priest and Kings(royal family). There is a literal change of status that occurs in the Sacrament. We were part of the affected generations of the Fallen Adam and Eve but now through faith in Christ we are transferred ( as Collosians 1 says ) into the Kingdom of light. Hence the candle at baptism. Hence the anointings -the one to block any generational evil and bring to protection to the child or person being baptised and the second to welcome them into the royal family of Jesus. Catholic Theology unlike some Protestant teaching does not stop at baptism . Why have 7 Sacraments if Baptism was all you needed? No, Catholic Theology teaches us we are to grow in holiness, grow in prayer, grow in our personal relationship with Jesus , Mary and our communion with the wonderful family of the Church in heaven and on earth, grow in our practice of abiding in Jesus and He in us through the Mass . We are " to work out our salvation in fear and trembling " as St. Paul say. There are aspects of generational sin that do affect us much like a mobile that you might hold over a child's crib. If unrepentant sin occurs in a family it causes movement ( even Pamela , if you wish it didn,t)That movement can cause self-judgements as in divorce. Some children self judge thinking they have caused the divorce. Children need to be comforted and encouraged that they were NOT the cause of divorce. Joseph is quite right . The quote from Ezekiel 18 is a very useful thing to remind ourselves of. Every generatrion has a choice as to whether the sin of previous generations continues. We can say thus far and no further. However, in the case of schizophrenia, it is a mental illness that has genetic preconditions.Such illnesses can be handed on from generation as in heart conditions, diabetes, alcoholism etc. The sin comes in the refusal to acknowledge its presence from past generations,attempts to hide effects( to lie about genetic illness to self or others) and to refuse to find the best possible ways to treat the illness. For Pamela you have given a tremendous gift of love to your husband as he struggled. So many with schizophenia have never had the love of a praying, faithful believer.The fact that he lied to you before marriage is sufficient reason to go to a Tribunal for Annulment. In this way the Catholic Church is saying that your marriage although a reality was founded on a lie and did not meet the basic condition of entering into a covenant FREELY. You have to know all the facts to make a free decision. You were deceived by your husband. That being said, it is important for you as a parent of child whose genetic makeup includes genes from a man with schizophenia...to become knowledgeable about symptoms of schizophrenia in your child but also so you can intervene to pray for healing earlier rather than later. I know and have seen so many miracles that come when we place our illnesses into the hands of Jesus and Mary , and when we ask for the Sacrament of Healing at critical points in diagnosis and procedures. 2 Cor 1 says that those who have been comforted will have a special gift of comfort for others. I have a deep sense that this will be born out in your life Pamela Pax et Bonum

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 8 at 4:15 pm.

Fr Donald Flumerfelt, thanks for your sharing and teaching. Hope you will continue to enlighten us and if we should deviate too far, in our heartfelt discussions, to bring us back to the Truths so none of our Flocknote brothers and sisters are unintentionally misguided. And welcome home after 19 years!

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Susan DeVault: December 8 at 4:24 pm.

387 Only the light of divine Revelation clarifies the reality of sin and particularly of the sin committed at mankind's origins. Without the knowledge Revelation gives of God we cannot recognize sin clearly and are tempted to explain it as merely a developmental flaw, a psychological weakness, a mistake, or the necessary consequence of an inadequate social structure, etc. Only in the knowledge of God's plan for man can we grasp that sin is an abuse of the freedom that God gives to created persons so that they are capable of loving him and loving one another.

..."sin is an abuse of the freedom that God gives to created persons so that they are capable of loving him and loving one another." Since God gives us free will when we choose to disobey God of our own free will and turn to sin and evil it is our own choice. God gives us free will to choose to love him and love one another! I love this part most especially, because I never really thought about why God gives us free will until reading this part today.

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 8 at 4:45 pm.

Amen, Susan.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 8 at 5:33 pm.

Thank you very Fr. Donald. Very much enlightening. And I like very much what you said: There are aspects of generational sin that do affect us much like a mobile that you might hold over a child's crib. If unrepentant sin occurs in a family it causes movement." This could explain why I believe an individual has a greater inclination to commit the same sin as his parent/s than another individual whose parents did not. Like a child whose parents are divorced are more likely to have a broken marriage. Or like a son of an faithful husband is more likely to become unfaithful himself.I guess there is also a logical explanation for this. As Fr. Donald had illustrated, the child of divorced parents may see himself as cause of divorce. May I add, the child may also see divorce as something that is acceptable and therefore it is ok also to do it. Or a son of a drunken father may want to get even at his father by getting drunk himself and do worse things. But having said that, the individual can through prayer,living a righteous life, avoiding occasions to commit the same sin can overcome these inclinations and become a better person. Which is why I had said earlier, it is important to know what are the vices of your parents, grandparents, great grandparents, so that you could avoid occasion to commit the same sin, start the habit and so on. My father loved playing the lotto, betting at the race track while my mother loved to play mahjong. Which is why I refuse to gamble and shy away from casinos, even though i am very good at numbers, because I may start to love gambling. But, Joseph, with regards to curses, such as what they say as the Kennedy curse, I definitely do not believe in them.

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 8 at 5:43 pm.

And may I add, for children of separated parents, I would suggest that the separated parent pray the Holy Rosary daily with the child and include prayers for the estranged spouse. Refrain from talking ill about his father or mother. Unless, the marriage is annulled, do not remarry. The child has to learn about the sanctity of marriage or that marriage can be a way of sanctification. She or he has to learn the value and virtue of purity.

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Joseph, TC Tan: December 8 at 5:56 pm.

Christ is our Redeemer. He will also judge all of us. At His first Coming, He is LOVE. At His second Coming, he will be the JUST God. Love and Justice are flip sides of the same coin. They are not opposites, they are the same. For Love is Justice and Justice is Love. I was told this by our Lord in the Adoration Room when I contemplated this mystery many years ago. Hallelujah!

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Roberto Tordesillas: December 8 at 10:26 pm.

Hi, Joseph. Another way of saying it. While we are alive, or during our earthly life, we experience God's love and mercy but after our death, we experience God's justice.

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Pamela Bloink: December 8 at 10:53 pm.

Fr. Flumerfelt thank you for your kind words. I pray for my daughter daily. She has been in counseling for 9 years now with the same psycologist. Dr. R has helped us both. Mandi is bipolar and is on medication for that. After being in the hospital she now realizes the importance of staying on her medication.

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Pamela Bloink: December 8 at 11:02 pm.

Roberto I do pray for her dad still. Mandi wanted to change her last name to my maiden name I would not let her. She wanted to rip up pictures of us together and I wouldn't let her. I have reminded her quite often of the good things he has done. After he was arrested she began telling me things he had done to her that I never knew. She only remembers the bad stuff. I pray she can forgive him and I pray that he will keep his promises to her.

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Mary Lou Seewoester: December 9 at 7:38 am.

Pamela...I will pray for you and your daughter...for hope and healing from the effects of mental illness on your family.

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Julaine McMillan: December 9 at 9:46 am.

Pamela: My heart goes out to you and all those who suffer from mental disease. I pray for those affected daily.

Psychological abuse can be just as damaging if not more damaging than physical abuse. Regardless, both affect society greatly and most of all those living with the abuse in the home.

Everything is possible with God.

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